If I was Admin, I'd delete this whole topic x] This is just bringing fights, now all of you STFU! I never actually typed the words so you can't give me a friken warning.. Now, listen... I agree with a point Mintjam made.. people can't take criticism.. why join a forum where (PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED AND PROBABLY WILL) express their opinions.. I won't say any names now.. and I do agree.. staff lack knowledge and understanding of stuff in here.. I also agree with Lighty when she said.. there are too many young children but that ain't the point.. it's that people act immature or silly at the wrong times.. people joke around too much.. people joke around when it's the wrong time.. Fred has to sort out the staff he choose.. maybe choose new, fresh ones.. I ain't saying all staff are bad.. coz I'm one of them xD But ye.. some staff act immature at times.. I AIN'T SAYING IT'S JUST YOU BOZO!! Before you or any others say anything.. I wasn't trying to offend anyone here so don't take it the wrong way.. READ ALL OF WHAT I WROTE plz

Thanks

DD , If I simply delete / lock the topic. It would just be trying to run away from the situation , which(frankly)I've never been fond of.

@ the chat quote.
Now that's the EXACT reason why I don't let you guys have the chat mod powers bozo. You guys just clear it all away before I could come , help and be fair :\

Lighty , You do know that I care/respect(both actually) 'bout your opinions and believe me , dunno why other staff members just try to run away from the issues brought upon , to me. They bring up the truth and all of you know how I am. Being fair with everyone is always what I prefer.

On bozo's "i treat everyone same" , Oh yes , I know how you treat people over there.

Over SP's comment saying bozo's the best mod. Don't really see how is he , he sure took care of the stuff in my all of a sudden absence. You aren't making things easier , you're just taking bozo's side.
He's still staff because I think that for christ's sake he'll get better next time , next time and believe me , I'm nearly fed up of waiting.

Bozo , lighty'd be better than you , I know that.

And in the end , your absence will me missed lighty. I've always been fond of your frank behavior towards everything , someone can't really take it , though.

Where for bozo , you get a demotion as a punishment and I personally apologize over whatever has happened while I was away. I'm sorry on behalf of them. If I was online then , the situation would've been in control.(hopefully)

Lock it now Eh.. you're right.. locking it would seem that way.. but good thing you've sorted things out.. now, let's all say sorry to eachother and hug <3.. =D JK.. no need to hug But DO say sorry D:

Thanks minty, for clearing things up..

Plus, I don't think I deserve my warning :/
It was the video "The Italian man who went to Malta" (yes, it did have some bad language, but it's funny coming from bozo, who has already posted some +15 things. ALSO, I did add the spoiler saying this video is only for 15+, open at your own risk)

And @Fred : I don't see why this topic should be up any more. We all know who is wrong. So why keep this topic open? It would just make room for more fights :/
Actually, why not delete this topic? Even bozo'll feel sad, and we don't want any "This site is full of fights, I don't want to join it" type of remark from any guests/newbies.

Locking/Deleting stuff WITHOUT sorting things out in a conflict isn't something what I like , Imo A admin should really try to sort stuff out in a conflict done within the forum. Being said that , I agree with Jakey on a point which says , you shouldn't have created it into a fight. We all know that bozo's a bit arrogant and makes you wanna swear at him in a large amount , but if you could've kept it calm from your side or not created it a real big fight, it would've been nice too Hope you get what I mean

Just a note to start off: I'm 15 years old. Bozo is 17 years old. I would like say that I don't understand why I'm able to be more mature.

ViKtory wrote:I truly think the staff is fked up. I can show many topics with mods and/or members going against the rules (CLEARLY).

At the fact that you post what is not necessary (@lighty)-

Lightbulb621 wrote:...I'm Chinese. Sorry for not having the "humor" but this irks me.

First, You revealed the location of where you live. And you have a problem with people knowing each other's address.
Second, this is in the jokes section. You post if it is funny. If that annoyed you, you should forget it, and roll over to the next topic. No need to make a fuss. It's better that way.

But I didn't reveal my location? Do you just assume everyone's who's Chinese lives in China or something?
I also was not making a fuss. I was just pointing that out.
And I have a problem with the ability to control my personal information. Not people knowing other people's addresses.

Soul Eater wrote:First of all that is to much to read so I will talk about the basics.

Secondly he is still staff because he is Art Castle's best Mod.

Ok now there is no reason to leave, I understand you are p*ssed off but bozo was doing his job. You swore, that's against the rules. And I understand you were commenting, so please just think about it and then make your decision.

Okay 1. read through everything before posting and so that you won't have a biased conclusion. And 2. that's your opinion, not a fact.

Fred100 wrote:Where for Soul and bozo , they both get a demotion as a punishment and I personally apologize over whatever has happened while I was away. I'm sorry on behalf of them. If I was online then , the situation would've been in control.(hopefully)

Please don't be sorry for them. If they're sorry, then they would say so. But I doubt that would ever happen so it doesn't matter. Tip: NEVER be sorry for a member on your forum. It will cause your downfall.

Jakey wrote:Lighty all you did just then was; you dug yourself a bigger hole.

Like if you kept this as a small thing, you could've won, because what art castle wants, is other opinions. So you did nothing wrong there, so what you should have said to bozo after he said "you always have your opinion on something" is: "Isn't that what art castle wants, opinions?" but you made it into a massive fight, so I'm not taking anyones side on this.

Uhm hi. I didn't say that and I replied to him like that because he was already talking to me in a negative way. I'm standing my ground not letting someone else push me around that way. Therefore, NOT "digging myself a bigger hole" but rather, standing on top of it, if you really want to get into metaphorical terms.

bozo17 wrote:here is my rebuttle

1. openly flamed. never happened, do you even know what flamming means?
2. I cleared it cause a conversation fred and I had last night, it was of no concern of anyother to view it
3. I never said you couldn't express oppinions,but you could word it differently
4. that first quote is taken completly out of context
5. damn stright you overreacted
6. you have the right to express your oppinions but not in a hurtful manner
7. once again, quote #2, taken completely out of context
8. yeah, and this is a great way to talk to a mod, learn some respect for superiors
9. I had to go cause of something I go to everyday SCHOOL!
10. funny, you insulted me very intentionally
11. I cleared the message because of a conversation that fred and I had
12. so you think you'd make a better mod? I treat everyone the same, I don't treat anyone better when it comes to my modding. everyone is at an equal standard in my eyes
13. maybe cause you should have relised you'd get warned for doing that, it's common knowledge
14. it's a rule and you must follow it
15. those 3 remarks happened last night over something you weren't here for, you have completly taken that out of context

thank you soul and thanx (sorta) jakey

Kay one. Flaming is, according to dictionary.com:

dictionary.com wrote:16.
Computer Slang . to insult or criticize angrily in an electronic message.

Okay let's see:

bozo17 wrote:[21:57:43] @ bozo17 : maybe you should just not open your mouth sometimes

I see an insult? Is it in anger? Yes. Therefore, flaming. And it's flaming with one 'm'. There are many other examples but you'd just be like "that's out of context" or something. Do YOU know what flaming is? Because I'm guessing no here.

Two. Well why can't other people view it? Why can't an admin or another mod view it? Why do you need to hide it?

Three.

bozo17 wrote:[21:53:17] @ bozo17 : you ALWAYS have to give YOUR oppinion on something

Another implication that that you don't want me to give my opinion.

Four. HOW is that taken "completely out of context"? You said that right after I said I wanted to tell you my reply. I was being mature and NOT replying to the topic, but rather telling you out of the topic.

Five. Uh ok? Way to contribute to what I said.

Six. Oh so you're saying I CAN express my opinions now. "Hurtful" is YOUR opinion. I don't think it's hurtful. Only you do.

Seven. And yet AGAIN. How is this taken out of context? You SAID, and I QUOTE,

bozo17 wrote:[21:52:19] @ bozo17 : then I want you to do something for me

I say, "what." and you said,

bozo17 wrote:[21:52:38] @ bozo17 : stop acting like you know everything

I'm not changing ANYTHING here. You said THAT. I don't understand HOW that's out of context. At all. You wanted me to do something, I said what, and you said that. Yeah, that wasn't out of context. Learn what context means thanks.

Eight. I LOL'd in all honesty. Just read number 12 because this "point" you made and number 12 go along together.

Nine. Yeah, I guessed that you had school. What I meant was that I expected some sort of PM or reply or SOMETHING instead of ignoring me and thinking the issue was over.

Ten. I’m insulting you? What? All I’m saying is that you’re unprofessional and immature. That’s giving constructive criticism on your modding. You’re the one who’s basically telling me to shut up.

Eleven. I go back to number 2. It’s the same thing. So what? Other people can’t view it? Okay cool. And then Fred later says in his post after you:

Fred100 wrote: Now that's the EXACT reason why I don't let you guys have the chat mod powers bozo. You guys just clear it all away before I could come , help and be fair :\

I have a question mark for you.


Twelve. You treat everyone the same? WHAT? I mean it’s not like you just said:

bozo17 wrote: 8. yeah, and this is a great way to talk to a mod, learn some respect for superiors

Oh yeah, treating EVERYONE equally. It’s not like you’re saying that you’re “SUPERIOR” or anything. Nope. NOT AT ALL. Intense sarcasm right there if you didn’t catch it. Yeah. Way to contradict yourself.

Thirteen. Okay, LIKE I POINTED OUT BEFORE. In the FORUM RULES, it says, “TRY NOT TO SWEAR”. Does that mean it’s forbidden? NO IT DOES NOT MEAN IT’S FORBIDDEN. IT’S SAYING IT’S NOT PREFERRED. I feel like you gave me that warning from personal hate towards me. And I expected mods to know the forum rules.

Fourteen. I’m guessing you’re talking about me saying the OHMYGOSH IT’S THE F WORD. Like I said, it says “try”.

Fifteen. I did NOT “completely take it out of context”. I was merely asking WHY you were still mod. And, it doesn’t matter if I don’t know why you got it, but rather, YOU STILL HAVE THEM. IT’S STILL A WARNING. I know forums that would kick a mod out if they even have ONE warning. You’re lucky Fred let you stay.

Fred100 wrote: Locking/Deleting stuff WITHOUT sorting things out in a conflict isn't something what I like , Imo A admin should really try to sort stuff out in a conflict done within the forum. Being said that , I agree with Jakey on a point which says , you shouldn't have created it into a fight. We all know that bozo's a bit arrogant and makes you wanna swear at him in a large amount , but if you could've kept it calm from your side or not created it a real big fight, it would've been nice too Hope you get what I mean

See that’s the point. I DON’T know bozo. He’s a mod and I’m a member. As a member I expected him to act as a mod, and NOT arrogant and ignorant.

ViKtory wrote: Actually, why not delete this topic? Even bozo'll feel sad, and we don't want any "This site is full of fights, I don't want to join it" type of remark from any guests/newbies.

This shows the TRUTH. If the truth isn’t shown to the public, and everything was hidden, the world would be living in a lie.

If any of you think I deserve a ban, go take the ban hammer and do it. I don't care, I'll happily take it. I only posted this here because bozo left the chat box without resolving the issue and I did not want to send him a PM because I felt that other people needed to know about this.

Fred, I sincerely apologize that I have this problem on your forum. But people here are too immature. We’ll definitely keep in touch on Facebook and MSN^^

And on a last note: Not taking criticism in life will get you no where. You will never be successful if you don’t open your mind to other people’s opinions. And that is all. Good bye.

Lightbulb621 wrote:Not taking criticism in life will get you no where. You will never be successful if you don’t open your mind to other people’s opinions.

That's all. x]